akimoggie: hueyraywest: akimoggie: hueyraywest: akimoggie: hueyraywest: akimoggie: note-a-bear: akimoggie: note-a-bear: akimoggie: shitimtooblackfor: Shit Im too Black for: HETERONORMATIVITY1) if black people and white people are different for historical and cultural reasons and 2) Gender happens differently in different histories and cultures then  Black people and white people need not have the same gender formationsWOMP WOMP NIGGA THAT’S LOGIC  i guess this is meant to explain why there is more black hatred towards gays and lesbians than there is from any other ethnic group??????? How in the name of Yeezus do you get that from what was said? Gtfoh Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? You don’t even follow me, so how the fuck did you come across this? Just trolling? i like how you need quasi-funny gifs to back up your point, reminds me of when i was like fourteen years oldalso, no, you say stupid things on the internet and i am perfectly entitled to retort to them with something that is true, doesn’t matter if i follow you or notyou assert that black people and white people don’t have the same gender formations i pointed out that one has worse gender formations than the otherprove me wrong  I didn’t make an argument. I reblogged something that makes sense, is funny and worth reblogging. I then asked a rhetorical question in response to your sad sack little racist 101 trolling antics. Clearly you don’t see the difference. I have no need to actually engage in a discussion or argument with racist shitstains like you. And now, I have done you a service by wasting my time, my energy, and my mood on your piece of shit antics and what you presume to be enlightenment, or wisdom, or whatever the fuck. I’m through, because I have shit all to prove to you, or anyone like you, you flaming sack of dog shit. End of story. gtfoh lol dis nigga madanyway that other guy deleted his reblog before i could answer it so i’m just gonna toss my response to him here it doesn’t take a genius to google topics on racism and homophobia, but since you’re too lazy here are some sampleshttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/bruni-same-sex-marriage-and-blacks.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/black-homophobic-horror-f_b_1085605.html http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/02/whats_with_african_american_op.html (top african americans are having to rail against mainstream black homophobia js)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terrance-heath/historically-black-homoph_b_141904.html decent article on the matter http://www.glaad.org/blog/huff-po-gay-voices-highlights-violence-against-trans-people-color-west-hollywoodnamely“According to a recent report released by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs,  trans people of color are disproportionately impacted by LGBT hate crimes, with trans women constituting 44% of LGBT hate crime victims in the past year, and people of color constituting 70% of the victims.”and these are not white people shooting black trans peoplethese are, with some exceptions, nearly always black people beating up/killing other black trans people (or gays)it’s one thing to be LGBT and whiteand another to be LGBT and hispanic (a very macho-centric culture with big consequences for women who refuse to be subservient)but being LGBT and black is statistically the most dangerous combination you can have i’m sorry that simple math is racist   yes because black LGBT take shit from being both LGBT and take the most shit when it comes to racism. You pinning LGBT hate on black america as if this isn’t bred out of a Eurocentric patriarchal system, in which the original comment attacked makes you ignorant and shows that you are derailing.  It doesn’t matter if it’s bred out of robot monkeys from space, fact is that homophobia is far more rampant in black communities than in nearly any other minority and that homophobia is far more violent. Probably the only thing worse with regards to that are radical Muslims. Both advocate death for LGBT individuals, especially those in their community. Just look at what’s going on in Africa right now. It’s not a euro-anything, this is a worldwide problem born out of your own African roots, separate from a Christian or Muslim or any sort of religious identity or “euro-centric” upbringing.you’re basically saying “it’s not black peoples’ fault we hate gays, it’s whitey’s fault” and that’s supposed to somehow excuse everyone’s homophobia when homophobia and all other forms of hatred is by its own nature inexcusable.  i would spend my time to educate you but you are obviously a simple minded motherfucker. You are too ignorant to realize the affects of colonization on the entire world. Have a seat, take your racism and shove it up your ass. G’day ladies and gentlemen, the response of someone who has nothing with which to counter someone else’s facts man why are all your gifs of darkiesi can offer you some gifs of superior quality if you’d like  I repeat:So CLEARLY someone here doesnt understand what heteronormativity is. Now let me be clear, ON TOP of producing a certain way of thinking about sexuality (which is obviously what this person is thinking of) it also produces and polices gender differences (re: THIS DUMB SHIT http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=prG-n5fNQHo ) what my original point was was that heteronormativity produced or was inflected by a certain way of capitalism where you know MEN WORKED AND WERE ACTIVE and WOMEN SAT AT HOME TALKED SHIT AND WERE SUBMISSIVE. Now in another place and time and historical cricumstance (say slavery) both MEN AND WOMEN SLAVES WORKED (though they were routinely denied access to those particular genders because you know slaves werent REALLY human right, Thomas Jefferson?). So fast forward to today where many of the women in my family make the money for their households (this of course HAS NOTHING TO DO with the historical circumstances of black men being in jail and then being unable to get jobs, right) and are the “active” members in that simplistic european bullshit age of reason logic. My point has VERY LITTLE to do with homosexuality (though I do “fuck like a jungle”). My point is that even today gender does not need to be universalized by films like the notebook or media objects like Mo’Nique’s show. DONT COME FOR ME, CHASE A DREAMyou are done and so is this discussion 

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shitimtooblackfor:

Shit Im too Black for: HETERONORMATIVITY

1) if black people and white people are different for historical and cultural reasons

and

2) Gender happens differently in different histories and cultures

then 
 Black people and white people need not have the same gender formations

WOMP WOMP NIGGA THAT’S LOGIC 

i guess this is meant to explain why there is more black hatred towards gays and lesbians than there is from any other ethnic group???????

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw5b82YUNC1qzyyed.gif

How in the name of Yeezus do you get that from what was said?

Gtfoh

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

You don’t even follow me, so how the fuck did you come across this?

Just trolling?

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2339/magikarp.gif

i like how you need quasi-funny gifs to back up your point, reminds me of when i was like fourteen years old

also, no, you say stupid things on the internet and i am perfectly entitled to retort to them with something that is true, doesn’t matter if i follow you or not

you assert that black people and white people don’t have the same gender formations 

i pointed out that one has worse gender formations than the other

prove me wrong 

I didn’t make an argument. I reblogged something that makes sense, is funny and worth reblogging.

I then asked a rhetorical question in response to your sad sack little racist 101 trolling antics. Clearly you don’t see the difference.

I have no need to actually engage in a discussion or argument with racist shitstains like you.

And now, I have done you a service by wasting my time, my energy, and my mood on your piece of shit antics and what you presume to be enlightenment, or wisdom, or whatever the fuck.

I’m through, because I have shit all to prove to you, or anyone like you, you flaming sack of dog shit.

End of story. gtfoh

lol dis nigga mad

anyway that other guy deleted his reblog before i could answer it so i’m just gonna toss my response to him here

it doesn’t take a genius to google topics on racism and homophobia, but since you’re too lazy here are some samples

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/bruni-same-sex-marriage-and-blacks.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/black-homophobic-horror-f_b_1085605.html 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/02/whats_with_african_american_op.html (top african americans are having to rail against mainstream black homophobia js)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terrance-heath/historically-black-homoph_b_141904.html decent article on the matter

http://www.glaad.org/blog/huff-po-gay-voices-highlights-violence-against-trans-people-color-west-hollywood

namely

“According to a recent report released by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs,  trans people of color are disproportionately impacted by LGBT hate crimes, with trans women constituting 44% of LGBT hate crime victims in the past year, and people of color constituting 70% of the victims.”

and these are not white people shooting black trans people

these are, with some exceptions, nearly always black people beating up/killing other black trans people (or gays)

it’s one thing to be LGBT and white
and another to be LGBT and hispanic (a very macho-centric culture with big consequences for women who refuse to be subservient)

but being LGBT and black is statistically the most dangerous combination you can have

i’m sorry that simple math is racist

  

yes because black LGBT take shit from being both LGBT and take the most shit when it comes to racism. You pinning LGBT hate on black america as if this isn’t bred out of a Eurocentric patriarchal system, in which the original comment attacked makes you ignorant and shows that you are derailing. 

It doesn’t matter if it’s bred out of robot monkeys from space, fact is that homophobia is far more rampant in black communities than in nearly any other minority and that homophobia is far more violent. Probably the only thing worse with regards to that are radical Muslims. Both advocate death for LGBT individuals, especially those in their community. Just look at what’s going on in Africa right now. It’s not a euro-anything, this is a worldwide problem born out of your own African roots, separate from a Christian or Muslim or any sort of religious identity or “euro-centric” upbringing.

you’re basically saying “it’s not black peoples’ fault we hate gays, it’s whitey’s fault” and that’s supposed to somehow excuse everyone’s homophobia when homophobia and all other forms of hatred is by its own nature inexcusable. 

i would spend my time to educate you but you are obviously a simple minded motherfucker. You are too ignorant to realize the affects of colonization on the entire world. Have a seat, take your racism and shove it up your ass. G’day

ladies and gentlemen, the response of someone who has nothing with which to counter someone else’s facts

man why are all your gifs of darkies

i can offer you some gifs of superior quality if you’d like 

I repeat:

So CLEARLY someone here doesnt understand what heteronormativity is. Now let me be clear, ON TOP of producing a certain way of thinking about sexuality (which is obviously what this person is thinking of) it also produces and polices gender differences (re: THIS DUMB SHIT http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=prG-n5fNQHo ) what my original point was was that heteronormativity produced or was inflected by a certain way of capitalism where you know MEN WORKED AND WERE ACTIVE and WOMEN SAT AT HOME TALKED SHIT AND WERE SUBMISSIVE. Now in another place and time and historical cricumstance (say slavery) both MEN AND WOMEN SLAVES WORKED (though they were routinely denied access to those particular genders because you know slaves werent REALLY human right, Thomas Jefferson?). So fast forward to today where many of the women in my family make the money for their households (this of course HAS NOTHING TO DO with the historical circumstances of black men being in jail and then being unable to get jobs, right) and are the “active” members in that simplistic european bullshit age of reason logic. My point has VERY LITTLE to do with homosexuality (though I do “fuck like a jungle”). My point is that even today gender does not need to be universalized by films like the notebook or media objects like Mo’Nique’s show.

DONT COME FOR ME, CHASE A DREAM

you are done and so is this discussion 

(via socialjusticetavros)